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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
电影没有把辣椒水，老虎凳这些用刑的场面拍的太多，相当克制。现在的电影，动不动就是血肉横飞的大场面，主角受刑，如果不打个十分钟，那简直不是拍电影。
虽然有当时那个年代浓厚的zz宣传意味，不过比起现在通过字幕强行升华主题精神打鸡血尬喊口号的主旋律真是好太多，人物形象足够鲜明，平直的叙事也同样烘托着先人们的默默付出，直到最后那句“同志们永别了”才有轻轻地一击直打内心，敬佩之心方才油然而生。但也不得不说，这也是只属于那个时代特别的艺术表现形式，若然放到现代，必是不被大部分人所接受并喜爱的。
三年前的今天,我们是在那个无线电行结婚的,那天的月亮也是这么好。
这部比一般的革命电影故事更曲折，据说是克农同志指示拍摄，保留了一些真实情节，剧本敢于设置两次高潮，几处小波折和辅线也是环环相扣前后呼应，孙道临老师的表演较更早的《渡江》更有层次，好。
看了彩色修复版，真好啊，有了色彩就格外鲜活，而且服装色彩也更能传达角色设定（很喜欢姚苇那几条领带的颜色x）。希望能看到更多老片子的色彩修复版。
勉勉强强三星吧，刚开始的一段对话正反打都没有，看着不太习惯，剧情过于简单，连贯性又差，各片段之间联系之弱，几乎像独立的几部短片，台词、人物形象、配乐等等过于样板戏，有些细节做得不是很好，譬如墙上的标语写着“中日亲善”云云，倘若真是彼时日本人的标语，一定会写“日中亲善”吧？不过这些小细节也无所谓，最大的痛点还是剧情过于简单，人物形象太单一，幕与幕之间不连贯。但是很值得肯定的两点，一是这个故事的底版是相当不错的，丰富一下，肯定能拍出很好的电影，二是虽然受到一定客观条件的制约，但是可以感受到演员还是都很认真，这一点强于几乎所有当今“主旋律”。
在电波后扮演敌后角色，是智慧的英雄。
1、没有刻意描述二人的爱情
但是，好像身边的人不完全是这样认为
爱情合乎道理，却失去真正的情感，与王苹导演曾流露的细腻情感抒写有所不同，全然为了革命叙事所服务。深究为什么选择黄丽芬，不过是因为人物思想不够成熟，需要革命者的帮助才可走向成长。两人的孩子也是不明不白，若能适当增加些许微妙的感情戏，想必影片会有另一番风景。姚苇这一可笑的人物，最终也没变得可悲，有些扁平化。
彩色修复版，太舞台剧化了，不像是在看电影，也不适合。
影院看了高清彩色修复版。回忆起小时候在电视上扫到过的黑白版本的片尾，基调很不同。
演员们的表演和说话方式会容易让人出戏，但也不会是冲着表演来看的哇~那个绿色衣服的胖孩儿真的太可爱了，电影里的爹妈不管谁抱他，都拿他的大脸往人肩膀上贴贴
在影院看了彩色4k修复版。好奇这算是国产谍战片的鼻祖吗？感觉当代抗日谍战剧里的各种常见元素、设定、手法在这部1958年的老电影里基本都已经有了。并且在潜伏“伪装”方面还非常充分地描写了主角的“伪装”是如何跨越自身阶级和生活习惯的，而不仅仅是当代谍战剧里着重的性格态度与身份立场的伪装，有意思。
十七年电影。在红色经典中算是不错的。（补记）
经典电影值得去电影院看一下，黑白变彩色，艺术家们更加生动。
这部电影的时代意义远大于它的电影意义。
比上一部好看，也确实很惨烈，战争戏很出彩。但总感觉不够动人，个人感觉战争片真正打动人心还是要拍人性。，文戏部分可以做的更好一点。
“同志们，永别了，我想念你们”不可谓不感动。但论电影本身仍然处于政治形态远远大于剧作形态的，即电影本身明明可以拍的更精彩更曲折，但是这一版的确是更接近于政治宣传工具。
“第七穿插连应到一百五十七人，实到一人。”
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